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01/31/2012 10:15 AM House ECON. DEV., TRADE & TOURISM


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10:25:43 AM Presentation: Canada-alaska Relations Update by Canada's Cousul General Denis Stevens and Cousul Peter Taylor
11:32:08 AM Adjourn
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General Denis Stevens and Consul Peter Taylor
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
 HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, INTERNATIONAL                                                               
                       TRADE AND TOURISM                                                                                      
                        January 31, 2012                                                                                        
                           10:24 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bob Herron, Chair                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster                                                                                                      
Representative Wes Keller                                                                                                       
Representative Steve Thompson                                                                                                   
Representative Berta Gardner                                                                                                    
Representative Chris Tuck                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kurt Olson, Vice Chair                                                                                           
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
Representative Cathy Engstrom Munoz                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: CANADA-ALASKA RELATIONS UPDATE BY CANADA'S COUSUL                                                                 
GENERAL DENIS STEVENS AND COUSUL PETER TAYLOR                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DENIS STEVENS, Consul General                                                                                                   
Consulate General of Canada in Seattle                                                                                          
Government of Canada                                                                                                            
Seattle, Washington                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided a PowerPoint presentation                                                                       
entitled, "Relations With Canada A Time of Opportunity," dated                                                                  
1/31/12.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
PETER TAYLOR, Consul                                                                                                            
Consulate of Canada in Anchorage                                                                                                
Government of Canada                                                                                                            
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Answered questions  during the  PowerPoint                                                             
presentation  entitled,   "Relations  With   Canada  A   Time  of                                                               
Opportunity," dated 1/31/12.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:24:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BOB HERRON  called the House Special  Committee on Economic                                                             
Development, International Trade and  Tourism meeting to order at                                                               
10:24 a.m.   Representatives Herron,  Thompson, Foster,  and Tuck                                                               
were present at  the call to order.   Representatives Gardner and                                                               
Keller arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: CANADA-ALASKA RELATIONS  UPDATE BY CANADA'S COUSUL                                                               
GENERAL DENIS STEVENS AND COUSUL PETER TAYLOR                                                                                   
PRESENTATION: CANADA-ALASKA RELATIONS UPDATE BY CANADA'S COUSUL                                                             
         GENERAL DENIS STEVENS AND COUSUL PETER TAYLOR                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
10:25:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HERRON announced  that the only order of  business would be                                                               
a  presentation  by Canada's  Consul  General  Denis Stevens  and                                                               
Consul Peter Taylor.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:25:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DENIS  STEVENS, Consul  General, Consulate  General of  Canada in                                                               
Seattle, informed  the committee the Consulate  General of Canada                                                               
based in Seattle  covers issues between Canada and  the States of                                                               
Alaska, Oregon, Idaho,  and Washington.  He spoke  of the strong,                                                               
long-standing economic  links between Alaska and  Canada, stating                                                               
that  Canada is  the  United States'  closest  ally and  economic                                                               
partner and  - because Alaska  is the  Arctic state -  Alaska and                                                               
Canada have  many common  concerns.   He presented  slide 3  of a                                                               
PowerPoint presentation  entitled, "Relations With Canada  A Time                                                               
of Opportunity,"  and said Canada  now has a  majority government                                                               
under Prime  Minister Stephen  Harper.   Among the  priorities of                                                               
the new government are economic  issues that are also of interest                                                               
to Alaskans. Economically, Canada is  doing O.K., in fact, Canada                                                               
is predicted  to be  an economic  world leader  for the  next two                                                               
years.     Of  the G7  [international  finance group]  countries,                                                               
Canada has the lowest overall tax  rate on new businesses and its                                                               
net debt  to gross  domestic product (GDP)  ratio is  the lowest.                                                               
In addition,  Canadian banks are  considered the soundest  in the                                                               
world  and  its unemployment  rate  is  below  that of  the  U.S.                                                               
However,  Canada must  guard against  complacency  because it  is                                                               
economically tied  to the U.S.  and Europe.   In order  to secure                                                               
prosperity and to position Canada  for growth, the prime minister                                                               
announced the  following transformations:   a return  to balanced                                                               
budgets  and sustainability  for  social  programs; health  care;                                                               
retirement systems;  investments in science and  technology for a                                                               
competitive  economy; immigration  reform to  supply the  economy                                                               
and labor  force; free trade  agreements with the  European Union                                                               
(EU)  and  India,  and  joining  the  Trans-Pacific  Partnership;                                                               
energy sales to Asia; and  the implementation of the joint Beyond                                                               
the Border Action Plan (BTB) initiative with the U.S.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:32:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STEVENS displayed  slide 5  that indicated  elements of  the                                                               
"Canada-US economic  relationship:   working together."   He said                                                               
Canada and  the U.S.  are essential  economic partners  and eight                                                               
million U.S.  jobs depend  on trade  with Canada.   The  U.S. and                                                               
Canada have also been long-time  security allies during worldwide                                                               
conflicts;  closer to  home, four  hundred thousand  people cross                                                               
the Canada-U.S.  border daily.    He  recalled Canada  and Alaska                                                               
have  partnered  in border  management  since  the Klondike  Gold                                                               
Rush.    Although  Alaska  crossings are  not  the  busiest,  the                                                               
crossings at Skagway  and on the Alaska Highway are  vital to the                                                               
economies of  Alaska and Yukon Territory.   Furthermore, Alaska's                                                               
investments  in  the  Port of  Skagway  will  facilitate  Yukon's                                                               
exports of mineral ores.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:36:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HERRON  asked for suggestions  to improve  the "bottleneck"                                                               
at the border crossing north of Skagway.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEVENS  understood the BTB  initiative establishes  a method                                                               
to assess ideas and opportunities  posed by the regions affected.                                                               
He  has  heard  federal  officials from  both  countries  are  to                                                               
welcome new ideas from anyone regarding border efficiencies.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HERRON  further inquired how  to formulate a  strategy that                                                               
will educate the U. S.  Department of Homeland Security about the                                                               
economic value of efficient crossings at Skagway.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:39:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PETER  TAYLOR, Consul,  Consulate of  Canada in  Anchorage, asked                                                               
whether Chair Herron  was speaking of delays only  on goods going                                                               
into the U.S., or going both ways.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HERRON  surmised from speaking to  officials at Whitehorse,                                                               
Yukon  Territory,  and Skagway,  that  the  U.S. attitude  toward                                                               
economic  development  between the  two  jurisdictions  - and  to                                                               
tourists crossing  the borders -  results in a system  that seems                                                               
inefficient.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:41:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEVENS advised  the practical purpose of  the BTB initiative                                                               
is  to make  it easier  for legitimate  travelers and  traders to                                                               
cross  the  border, without  weakening  national  security.   The                                                               
initiative  was led  by  the federal  governments  in Ottawa  and                                                               
Washington,  D.C., and  he encouraged  the  committee to  contact                                                               
federal  authorities with  ideas consistent  with the  initiative                                                               
that will  strengthen trade and  security, not one or  the other.                                                               
Mr.  Stevens  pointed out  that  the  Pacific NorthWest  Economic                                                               
Region (PNWER)  is engaged  in this  initiative and  is gathering                                                               
ideas  for solving  problems; in  fact,  the Canadian  government                                                               
will  be  listening  closely  to  PNWER's  recommendations.    He                                                               
stressed  that the  overall approach  in  the perimeter  security                                                               
action  plan within  the BTB  initiative is  to identify  threats                                                               
earlier and offshore  if possible, by the  screening of shipments                                                               
at the  perimeter, not  the border.     This would  eliminate one                                                               
screening for cargo  that arrives in port and then  proceeds to a                                                               
land border.   Also, there will  be less focus on  known shippers                                                               
and  trusted,  frequent,  travelers  and  traders  through  their                                                               
membership in  NEXUS and FAST  [programs that  allow pre-approved                                                               
travelers to  cross quickly].    The  action plan also  calls for                                                               
investment  in  physical  infrastructure and  technology  at  the                                                               
border.   He  advised the  initiative further  addresses security                                                               
elements  such  as  developing  joint  intelligence  assessments,                                                               
sharing   information  between   law  enforcement   and  national                                                               
security agencies,  enabling Canada and  the U.S. to  align their                                                               
regulatory  approaches, cooperating  on  best practices,  sharing                                                               
research and efforts to counter  violent extremism, expanding the                                                               
Shiprider program,  enhancing critical  cyber-infrastructure, and                                                               
better  preparing  for disasters  and  emergencies.   The  second                                                               
initiative,  the Regulatory  Cooperation Council  (RCC) addresses                                                               
differences  in regulations  such  as  labeling and  duplication.                                                               
The RCC focuses  attention to four key sectors of  the Canada and                                                               
U.S.  shared  economy:   agriculture  and  food,  transportation,                                                               
health and  personal care products,  and chemical  management and                                                               
the environment.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE THOMPSON asked whether  any progress has been made                                                               
on employment  and the exchange  of workforce between  Canada and                                                               
the U.S.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:50:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STEVENS acknowledged  the BTB  initiative  does not  address                                                               
labor  mobility.   He  pointed  out that  PNWER  is developing  a                                                               
promising pilot program on this major issue.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR  added that  there is  a great  demand in  Alberta for                                                               
American workers  and professionals, but  immigration authorities                                                               
in Canada  take a  certain amount  of time.   The  PNWER proposed                                                               
model creates  a pool of  prequalified, skilled workers  from the                                                               
Pacific  Northwest  who would  be  eligible  to work  in  Canada.                                                               
However,  a  problem  exists with  self-regulated  professions  -                                                               
particularly engineers  - being qualified  to travel and  work in                                                               
either  country.   This  problem  must be  resolved  by U.S.  and                                                               
Canadian professional certification boards.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:53:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HERRON recalled PNWER believes  the best pilot program will                                                               
come  from the  close relationship  between British  Columbia and                                                               
Washington State.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:55:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.   STEVENS  agreed   the  British   Columbia-Washington  State                                                               
relationship is  special.  He  presented slide 9 that  listed the                                                               
effects of  the BTB and RCC  initiatives on Alaska, and  said the                                                               
effects are ambitious, practical,  and have specific deliverables                                                               
and timelines.   Three  elements that may  affect Alaska  are the                                                               
Vancouver  preclearance  of  cruise  ship  passengers  bound  for                                                               
Alaska, the coordination of infrastructure  upgrades at small and                                                               
remote  ports of  entry, and  a pilot  project on  inbound marine                                                               
cargo  at Prince  Rupert.    Slide  10 listed  new trends  in the                                                               
Canada-Alaska economic  relationship:  There is  positive two-way                                                               
trade -  Alaska exports to  Canada are  up and Canada  exports to                                                               
Alaska are up.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:00:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK  referred to  exports in the  mining industry                                                               
and asked  whether exported  minerals out of  Alaska by  a Canada                                                               
company are reported as a Canada export.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR explained  that those materials are  an Alaska export.                                                               
In fact, production from the Red  Dog mine goes "way offshore" or                                                               
to British  Columbia for smelting.   He said he did  not know how                                                               
the  companies report  to Canada  and U.S.  tax authorities.   In                                                               
further  response to  Representative Tuck,  he said  if materials                                                               
from the  Red Dog  mine are  sold to Korea,  it is  considered an                                                               
export to Korea and  if they are sold to Canada,  it is an export                                                               
to Canada.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:02:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STEVENS continued  to slide  11, entitled,  "Canadian mining                                                               
companies  and Alaska,"  and  noted that  mining  is the  largest                                                               
investment sector for Canada in  Alaska; in fact, Canada provides                                                               
about  70 percent  of the  mining investment  in the  state.   He                                                               
acknowledged   that  Canada   is   concerned  about   anti-mining                                                               
advertising  towards foreign  and Canadian  mining.   There is  a                                                               
need to protect  the "Canada brand" because this  investment is a                                                               
"win-win" in  a time when  Alaska and  Canada need growth  in the                                                               
development  of  their valuable  resources.    Canada is  heavily                                                               
invested  in mining  because  Canadian  companies have  developed                                                               
expertise in this  sector and the Canadian  mining finance system                                                               
provides  favorable  tax  treatment, even  though  some  Canadian                                                               
companies  mining   in  Alaska  are  widely-held,   or  owned  by                                                               
Americans.  Slide 12 listed  Canadian mining companies working in                                                               
Alaska, and  he pointed out  26 of 30 exploration  companies that                                                               
are active  in Alaska,  as of  2010, are  Canadian.   Mr. Stevens                                                               
referred to a  paper prepared by the consulate  in Anchorage last                                                               
year that outlines Canada's role  as a partner in Alaska's mining                                                               
sector.   The paper - which  will be provided to  the committee -                                                               
sketches  the  economic  benefits  of mining  such  as  well-paid                                                               
employment, taxes, and contracts  for local businesses. He turned                                                               
to the subject of corporate  social responsibility (CSR) and said                                                               
mining companies in Alaska are  required to work with communities                                                               
and  secure a  social license  to operate  thereby committing  to                                                               
developing resources  responsibly and  safely.   There is  also a                                                               
permitting  process to  ensure  responsible resource  development                                                               
and the  protection of  health and the  environment.   Canada has                                                               
similar standards  and the Canadian government  expects companies                                                               
will  behave  responsibly  abroad.    Since  2009,  the  Canadian                                                               
government has encouraged companies  to support the principles of                                                               
CSR.    Canadian mining  companies  build  trust and  support  in                                                               
communities   where   they   operate   by   balancing   economic,                                                               
environmental,  and   social  objectives;  moreover,   the  major                                                               
companies  adhere  to  industry  initiatives  and  standards  for                                                               
sustainable  mining  set  forth  by various  organizations.    He                                                               
stressed  confidence   in  the   mining  companies   and  invited                                                               
suggestions  in this  regard.   Finally, slide  14 was  entitled,                                                               
"Canada US  Collaboration in  the Arctic,"  and he  observed that                                                               
Alaska,  Yukon  Territory,  and the  Northwest  Territories,  are                                                               
natural partners  in addressing the challenges  and opportunities                                                               
of  the North.    Collaborations include:    presidencies of  the                                                               
Arctic  Council  by  Canada  and  the  U.S.  beginning  in  2013;                                                               
existing  security and  environmental protection  partnerships in                                                               
the region;  sharing of science  to advance understanding  of the                                                               
region;  ongoing coast  guard  partnerships;  and ongoing  common                                                               
economic interests.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:11:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FOSTER restated the  importance of Canadian mining                                                               
to the economics  of Alaska, especially on  the Seward Peninsula.                                                               
He expressed his  surprise that Canada is the  greatest source of                                                               
energy  to  the  U.S.,  and asked  whether  Asian  countries  are                                                               
investing in the Canadian energy sector.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEVENS  anticipated that the  U.S. and Canada  will continue                                                               
to  be major  energy partners.   He  agreed that  there has  been                                                               
interest from Asian  markets - China in particular  - in Canada's                                                               
resources, including  its oil sands.   It is not  surprising that                                                               
emerging countries are  interested, and it is  natural for Canada                                                               
to diversify its opportunities.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:14:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR  added that China and  Korea hold shares in  oil sands                                                               
developments.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HERRON  asked whether  Canada had  balanced budgets  in the                                                               
past.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEVENS  recalled that prior  to the economic  downturn there                                                               
was  an 11-  to 12-year  period of  budget surpluses.   Presently                                                               
there is  a federal  deficit.  In  further response,  Mr. Stevens                                                               
said there is no law  or constitutional provision that requires a                                                               
balanced federal budget.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:18:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HERRON  asked whether there  is a realistic  possibility of                                                               
an ore concentrate coming from  the Northwest Territories through                                                               
Yukon to Skagway for export.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR  said that is  unknown.  An  east-west interconnection                                                               
for Yukon and the Northwest  Territories would have to cover some                                                               
difficult country.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:20:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HERRON  asked for  Mr.  Taylor's  opinion on  whether  the                                                               
Keystone XL  pipeline could take  an alternative  east-west route                                                               
to Prince Rupert.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR  said there is a  small pipeline to Vancouver  that is                                                               
not suitable for large-scale exports.    He warned that the coast                                                               
guard is cautious about the  installation of an oil pipeline port                                                               
at Prince Rupert.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:22:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HERRON,  returning to the  theme of Canada's term  as chair                                                               
of the Arctic  Council, inquired as to the strategy  that will be                                                               
taken regarding the alignment of the U.S. and Canada.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STEVENS  opined  that  officials  speak  of  the  successive                                                               
presidencies as an important opportunity  for North America.  His                                                               
government  is still  working  on  its focus  for  its period  of                                                               
leadership, but partnership with the U.S. is always absolute.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:26:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HERRON recalled PNWER went  to Ottawa and carried an update                                                               
on the Alaska  Northern Waters Task Force.  He  asked whether the                                                               
consulate general had received any response.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:26:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEVENS said he not received a detailed analysis.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAYLOR  expressed  his  intention  to  "flag"  some  of  the                                                               
recommendations on governance.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HERRON  related the task  force found a lot  of information                                                               
about the Arctic, and Canada has a wealth of knowledge.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:28:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FOSTER  called for  the construction of  more U.S.                                                               
icebreakers.   He  asked  for  the status  of  Canada's fleet  of                                                               
icebreakers.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEVENS  said Canada has  one large active icebreaker  and is                                                               
building a new one.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:29:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR added that the  Canadian Coast Guard Ship (CCGS) Louis                                                               
St-Laurent  is a  heavy  icebreaker and  larger  than the  United                                                               
States Coast Guard  Cutter (USCGC) Healy, although it  is old and                                                               
is  to  be replaced.    Canada  does have  other  medium-capacity                                                               
icebreakers for  service in  the Gulf of  Saint Lawrence  and the                                                               
Saint Lawrence  River.   He concluded that  Canada's fleet  is in                                                               
slightly better shape than that of the U.S.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:32:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Special  Committee on  Economic Development,  International Trade                                                               
and Tourism meeting was adjourned at 11:32 a.m.                                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
EDT - Canadian Consul General Presentation Jan 31 2012.pdf HEDT 1/31/2012 10:15:00 AM
EDT 1.31.12 Bio_CG Denis Stevens.pdf HEDT 1/31/2012 10:15:00 AM
EDT 1.31.12 Peter Taylor short bio August 2011.pdf HEDT 1/31/2012 10:15:00 AM